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Het is alweer acht jaar geleden dat we een interview met Krisiun publiceerden. Nu de Braziliaanse broers met het album ’Scourge Of The Enthroned’ hun positie als top death metalband consolideren, is het wel weer eens tijd om wat vragen voor te leggen. Bassist/zanger Alex Camargo gaf antwoord op onze vragen.

Door: Pim B. | Archiveer onder death metal / grindcore

Last time we interviewed you was in 2011 when you just released 'The Great Execution'. So, it's time to catch up a bit now your new album 'Scourge Of The Enthroned' has been released. The first thing I noticed is that you went back to the Stage One Studio in Germany with Andy Classen producing. You had worked with him since your 2006 album 'AssassiNation', but you decided to work with Erik Rutan on your previous album 'Forged in Fury'. So why did you decide to work with Andy once again?
Well, each album has its own direction and possibilities to follow. Before the recording of ‘Forged In Fury’ we thought we should try another producer in order to experience something different since we were working with Andy for three albums in a row. ‘Forged In Fury’ was a different album; the speed and aggression were there but we went a bit heavier with more mid-tempo parts mixed up with our usual speed. For the latest album we thought we could go back to Andy specially because the songs are more straight forward and more complex as well. Andy is very familiar with our music as he is always willing to keep working with us.

I remember 'The Great Execution' was recorded analogue. Did you record the new one analogue as well? You still hate that modern sound, right?
I don't really hate modern sounds, I just don't dig it. We grew up on classic metal bands from the 70's and from the 80's. There were no overproduced digital records back then. The whole production thing has improved tremendously in regards of technology and resources. You can go to a modern studio and still get an organic sound. It's up to the band, the way they play and how they would like to sound too. We build our songs jamming together as a band, a unit. We try to get our records to sound as natural and as organic as possible. So definitely the analogue process sounds and works better to our music.

Getting back to 'Forged In Fury'. How do you feel about that album in hindsight? To me it came across as if the album lacked a bit of the aggression that is one of Krisiun's selling points. Even on 'The Great Execution' you showed you were able to put a bit more variation in your songs, yet you still sounded brutal as hell. Perhaps you moved away a bit too much from your style on 'Forged in Fury'?
Well, I agree that the album is not as aggressive compared to some of the other albums, but like I said each album has its own thing going on for the time span. It still is a Krisiun album. You can't tell it's a sell-out or a sloppy record. I'm very proud about it, it may lack some of the speed but there's plenty of brutality and crazy ideas and the mid-tempo parts are pretty heavy as well. It's a different record for sure but it's a 100% metal record. (That indeed is true – PB)

Okay, about the new album. Was there any starting point or initial idea how this new one had to sound? It comes across as if you incorporated the best of almost 30 years of Krisiun in this one, right?
Yes, we haven't really thought about it, we just felt it was time to write a more straight-foward, faster record. There's definitely a whole lot of older influences off our early records. We had a great time working on the songs. Having fun is essential. We knew we had to nail a crisp and clear sound without sounding digital or edited. We had worked hard on the studio as the overall sound came out very good in my opinion. Some of the parts are insanely fast and heavy but you can hear what's going on.

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Is it still easy to write new material after such a long time? Have you ever got a writers-block or anything like that?
Well, not really a writers-block, but some days you are not as inspired as well. We've never had a problem working out our songs. Like I said you have to have a good time during the writing process. There's not really a formula, we get together in the practice room and start jamming and sharing ideas; some work, some don't. We take our time and play the songs over and over until we find out if it's gonna work or not.

It seems the song 'Demonic III' is rather special and some sort of ode to yourselves. Can you tell a bit more about that?
Well, it's not really an ode to ourselves. The initial idea came out one day when Max was playing his drums viciously loud and insane. Our room is kind of loud, so we thought about writing something connected to it. Like ‘Deaf Forever’ from Motörhead. Then of course you add the poetry and the hooks in a metaphorical way to fit with the initial idea and the song. It's more like a message about everything we've being through. Everything we had developed and conquer through the years.

The artwork of the album is also related to the aforementioned song, but also the last track of the album 'Whirlwind Of Immortality', right? Can you tell a bit more about the idea behind the art and was it easy to work together with Eliran Kantor who painted it?
Yes, you got it. Eliran is one of the main artists these days. His art is incredible as well as his knowledgeable approach. We've sent him the lyrics asking for something connected with the Sumerian culture and mythology. He came up with a tremendous concept about it. The overall picture shows three ancient Annunaki gods transcending the beginning of existence.

After a lyric video for 'Demonic III' you also did a proper video for 'Devouring Faith'. Can you tell a bit more about this one as it very cool to watch?
Thanks, the song is about mankind mind's decay due to religious beliefs. The overall scene takes back to those horror movies from the 70's. Mixed up with the band's performance, I did enjoy it as well. I think the whole idea, the cuts and edits came out very good. We are all fans of old school horror movies. I think the movie itself did make a great combination with the song.

Okay, something different. You have toured all over the world and in 2017 you faced problems in Bangladesh while on the road with NervoChaos. I guess that can happen. But what do you think about certain websites that produced articles with their facts wrong and those same websites apparently being so influential they can dig up stuff, twist it around and produce articles that actually hurt bands and their members? That seems to be quite a thing within the metal scene as of late with tours being cancelled and so on. Do you have an opinion on that?
Well, that was definitely a rough day. Every other show of that Asian tour went fine, except this one. We had the visas issued and stamped in our passports. We were ready to go. We tried to make it through customs but they didn't let us through. They took our passports then let us sitting there for fifteen hours without any explanation. Luckily Eduardo from NervoChaos has a friend at the Brazilian embassy as he called him up and asked for help. The local Brazilian ambassador called the airport customs then everything changed. It was a fucking nightmare. At some point I feared for the worst. Luckily they let us go after the Brazilian embassy got involved. I don't care about whatever people could ever think about it. People like to talk and judge without having a clue.

Another different thing, that actually is pretty cool. You appeared on Bill Ward's top 10-list of favourite metal albums. What did you think when you heard about that?
Honestly I think this was the greatest prize we could ever score as a band. This is something that I couldn't ever imagine even on my distant dreams. If you think of who is Black Sabbath/Bill Ward. Simply the greatest band ever; the inventors of heavy metal. Bill Ward is like a father to me!!!

Back to current events. You have to promote the new album by touring and besides a couple of shows in Europe you already have booked a US-tour with Suffocation in October and November. I think this is Frank Mullen's farewell tour, right? Any plans to return to Europe for a full tour later this year or early next year?
Yes, we played a few shows in Germany to promote the latest album. The shows went great, we had a great time. Definitely looking forward to the tour with the mighty Suffocation, it should be a good fucking tour. Then we should be back to Europe next March for a longer tour.

That's all from my side. Anything else you'd like to add?
Thank you very much for the interview.

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