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2015 was het jaar van de comeback van Pyogenesis met nieuw werk. En als fan van mijlpalen uit de jaren negentig werden we niet teleurgesteld door ’A Century In The Curse Of Time’! Het bleek dan ook nog eens de start van een trilogie te zijn (over de negentiende eeuw en de vooruitgang der technologie met impact op het menselijk bestaan). Het tweede deel van deze trilogie heet ‘A Kingdom To Disappear’ en verschijnt anderhalf jaar later. Muzikaal en tekstueel ligt deze geheel in de lijn van de voorganger en dus kunnen we de loftrompetten boven halen voor Pyogenesis’ onweerstaanbare mix van rock, gothic, poppunk en alternatieve rock met pit. We hadden weer een leuk gesprek met hoofdman Flo V. Schwarz.

Door: Vera | Archiveer onder gothic metal

’A Century In The Curse Of Time’ came out in August 2015 and I think it was a glorious comeback with grand success, isn’t it?
We got very good reviews in the whole media and of course; you don’t know what to expect after thirteen years. So we were a bit excited that the media welcomed us this way, with warm hands.

And right after the release of the album you already played at Summer Breeze, it even was a kind of release show. What about this experience?
That was booked long time ago. That was booked more than one year before we played there. Me and the promoter met at Wacken, which is two weeks before Summer Breeze, we were talking about the comeback of Pyogenesis and he said he wanted to book the band. It is always nice to play big festivals.

What followed after that, concerning gigs and touring?
Well, we had a small Russian tour late 2015 and in January 2016 we played a headline tour here in Germany. There were some festivals in 2016. We played at Wacken, we did Full Metal Cruise, in October came the second part of the headliner tour. In November and December we went on tour with Life Of Agony. We did not play in Belgium or the Netherlands until now, but we are working on that. Yesterday I saw a Belgian magazine and we are CD of the month over there, so there must be an audience for us in Belgium. I think Benelux is worth to go for a couple of gigs.

’A Kingdom To Disappear’ is the second album of the trilogy about the nineteenth century. Can you add something about the topics on this second part?
Yes, it is about the change of the society in the nineteenth century. When that era started, there had just been the French Revolution and all the people were killed with the guillotine. There was no electricity and barely no steam machines. It was all new in the nineteenth century. Factories and stuff, all this became really big in that era. The people had to adapt to totally different ways of working and the society in these years really changed.

In two songs we hear you sing about decay. Quite an important issue?
The word decay describes a situation that is changed and is not anymore and the nineteenth century is between the former times – when everything was completely different – and the times we have now. The technology with cars and real engines and stuff… Decay describes the change of what happened.

Who is Kaspar Hauser? (mentioned at the end of the video for ‘Every Man For Himself And God Against All’ – Vera) I looked it up. Do you mean the guy who lived in a room without windows or a cave?

And why did you write about him?
He was a mystery of his time in the nineteenth century. People could not explain. The monarchy back then had a more important role than nowadays and he is believed to be the Crown prince of Baden in Germany and he was removed from the cradle after he was just two weeks. They replaced him by an ill kid, so the parents would not know and then he was kept in prison for sixteen years and only because they wanted to change the next royal person in that family.

Why a song about ‘New Helvetia’? For us it is a kind of neutral country of course…
Johann August Sutter, a German who lived in Switzerland, he moved to America in the nineteenth century and made California to what California is nowadays and he was the richest man in the world for some time until they found gold in his ground in California and then overnight he lost it all. You know the gold rush and things… It is an interesting thing, but I wouldn’t have written a song about it, but the reason why I did it, is because it has a European connection, because he is a European and especially a German.

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And what happened in 1848, according to the song ‘We (1848)’?
In 1848 was the Revolution here in Germany, actually in Prussia, because Germany only became Germany in 1871. As one of the last nations, Germany united as a nation. You know England or Great Britain and France were formed way earlier than Germany.

It is also a lesson in refreshing our history lessons…
(chuckles) It is.

I was also very amazed by ‘Blaze, My Northern Flame’. Is that a kind of bond with Scandinavia?
This song is about Alfred Nobel who invented dynamite and he is from Sweden. He is the Northern flame, because of the dynamite and the connection to him, because he is a Swedish guy. That is what I am trying to say in that song. It sounds maybe a bit like ‘A Blaze In The Northern Sky’ from Darkthrone.

What can you say about the long track ‘Everlasting Pain’?
As on the last record, ‘A Century In The Curse Of Time’, the last song is over ten minutes. The title track for ‘ACITCOT’ was fourteen minutes, this one is thirteen. It is great to play around with great melodies, just work them out. Usually you don’t have the time in a three/four/five minute song to really enjoy melodies and work with them and let them come and go and build them up… In music it is very important to have tension. Tension and release. And it is very difficult to build up a tension in a short song. That is why most of the radio music is so shallow. It is not made to get deeper into it. We wanted to create an atmosphere with this song, where you can fall into and get one with it. I hope that worked.

At least for me it does grandioso! In despite of the fact that the record still has to come out, you already have many new video clips: music videos for ‘I Have Seen My Soul’ and ‘Every Man For Himself And God Against All’ and a lyric video for ‘Blaze, My Northern Flame’. How did you manage to do that?
Doing video clips is a marketing tool nowadays and it is an important one. I like good video clips, you know. Those clips we did… we work with an Hungarian director and he does a great job. I run a management company here in Hamburg and we are working with him for eleven years now. All the video clips we do, we make with him.

Once again, melancholy is prominently present on the record, but that is one of your favourite features, isn’t it?
Yes, it is trademark I would say. Well… happy music…. I like happy music, but after a while… or I will say it another way: the albums I listened to and liked the most in my life are those that have a melancholic touch and not the ones that are happy. I can listen hundreds of times to albums that are happy, but not thousands of times. Because melancholy, I think it fits to more situations. To me music is always followed by emotions. When I am in a certain mood, I want to listen to certain music. That can create this mood, to a certain part, of course, but listening to melancholic music works when I am in a good mood and also when I am in a bad mood. That’s just a bit better. The melancholic part is the part that I like the most and that’s why I write the songs in a melancholic way. I think the emotions you want to transfer are received in a higher amount.

Should you call yourself an optimist or a pessimist?
Pfff neither one of both. I don’t think everything is good, but I don’t think everything is bad either. Maybe I don’t think enough to call myself one of these.

What is next for Pyogenesis?
In March we will have a twelve gigs tour in Germany. We are talking about a tour at the end of the year, including other countries in Europe.

Thumbs up for Belgium and the Netherlands!

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